They went to her house and observed her car in the garage. he said he had to raise the girls arms up to get them into the hatches of the oil tank. As a woman, I never go to sleep with my bra on. (942948) Interview with NK about CW's failing marriagehe badmouthed SW a lot . Its what seems to make sense, based on the info we recently learned. The girls were wearing nightgowns, Cece a pink nightgown with birds on it, and Bellas nightgown had a unicorn or believe on it. He asked one time if he should go look for his familyhe did not ask again about looking and he did not seem overly concerned, the police report said. Very CW. He didnt attempt to revive the children or call for help. If the digestive tract opens up at death, where did Shannan, Bella and Celeste poop? @Nick, regarding OCD. I lived with one. He is a monster. In reading about this case it would never occur to me to smother somebody in such a fashion. Cheryl: If Chris did that, he definitely has to die. I am not sure that he planned the murders. On top of that, he had to forcibly PUSH Bella down into the oil tank, because she was larger than the 8 inch diameter oil tank hole to fit through please answer why? I guess since theyre children and small its possible. Tell the world, especially the misinformed idiots who think Chris Watts is an attractive man and Shannan was controlling. Neither of them passed any body fluids. I actually do not believe that there was any sedation to the girls or his wife. Or after kids went to bed, and Im sure she didnt want to become an instant Mom! Even in this scenario, you would expect fingernails in his forearm if Watts managed a rapid 10 second kill. They say the questions had nothing to do with infidelity so it doesnt matter whether or not he had an affair. Frank and Sandy Rzucek, and their son Franky, tell CBS4 they have been physically, emotionally and financially exhausted by unfounded claims by conspiracy theorists who believe they played roles . @Nickvdl IMO I think he strangled her from behind and on their bed. At the end of the day there are no good reasons to commit murder, especially of ones own flesh and blood, but there may be valuable lessons to learn from figuring out how this could have happened. With that much free time in the day, she could have gotten a part-time job and brought home real money. And so on. A persons muscles relax upon death, including the sphincter. The two girls, Bella and Celestes bodies also had same, was noted in autopsy reports is from decomp process. Does this indicate that she was alive after being put into the oil tank? You get to know the people involved in a criminal investigation pretty well after writing 4 x 30 000+ word narratives. think mass gall stones) the bottom line is CW is a Covert Narcissist whose life would enevidably have unraveled at some point as covert express traits thus as a pattern of behavior. I would like to read the discovery how do I find it? Not whether you or most people would or wouldnt do that do you think Shanann was the type of person to do that? COFFIN BIRTH OF BABY NICO!-Please read description TY Scrub The Surface 8.27K subscribers Subscribe 13K Share 1.5M views 4 years ago THIS VIDEO IS. Chris probably told shannan that shed never see the kids again.. Wow, you are really reaching here. I will say one thing CW did NOT doat least he didnt rape his baby girlsha, like that makes him a good man, Yo i bet that thrive shit gave her that gallstone. Watts pleaded guilty to murdering Shanann, Celeste and Bella to avoid the death penalty. You can argue till the cows come home and all you end up arguing is that she could be in any non-specific place in the house. 2. There is a text I think to chris. I was married to someone, super attentive dad, husband. I think His story is believable. Heartbreaking evidence photos and video of stained shirt, underwear and bra Shanann Watts was wearing when her husband murdered her, wrapped her in a sheet and put her in shallow grave The. There are FBI profilers who are trained at reading people by what they dont say & in Chriss case sometimes he says too much. In the case of Lacey Peterson, fecal matter *was* found in the house. Saying she will be there with lollipops and other things. Perhaps they had one via phone or text. I doubt shed just leave her phone and stuff downstairs like that. Shanann was strangled and the children were smothered. Then he asks to talk to his dad. Inhaling ethanol fumes would make them all instant drunk and completely defenseless. However, his zombie-murder persona wouldnt let think that far ahead. Listen to the cop who interrogated him after he tells that stupid story. Colorado is very rural. But the way he disposed of their bodies and took them out of school, I dont believe that at all. Also I agree much is still withhhed from the public. Because he said hed never hurt his girls? She hurt my kids., Chris said, Theyre in a freakin oil tank. Watts was arrested on August 15, 2018. They dissipate in inconvenient circumstances. These may have been caused by an object, such as a necklace worn by the victim, or fabric, such as heavy-duty leather (such as a motorcycle jacket being worn by the murderer), and being compressed between the arm of the assailant and the neck/face of the victim. He also is the male submissive in F/m relationships. He was presented with evidence before the plea deal, and we dont know the content of those conversations. From their text messages & hers to friends you can tell he was trying to make her believe they had a chance & things were getting better. The reports had been sealed until the outcome of the trial. Which is odd to me again. i did not read many commentsso maybe others have notice thisCeces autopsys did not reveal her oesophasagus( maybe wrong spelling )surgery?this can be a reason why CW tried to keep all of them health documentation avoid been public recorded?becausethere may have been some exageration about it ?on the other sideinsurance policies would have not give them money so maybe this is why the medical bills so heavy?there is something that i dont understand? But hed then be a full time father leaving him not much time to galavant with NK except when a babysitter came. First of all- the digestive tract is long. They were invited by Shannans family to attend the funerals and did not even show. She was relatively YOUNG. Thoughts? Asshole should have never been presented and damn plea deal. Jayne is an EXTREMELY experienced K9 handler she can be seen in action in the Docu-Movie Missing 411. And about the **bra thing** (on or off, sleep or not), well this is a big deal to me, because I think it can be considered an indicator as to time of death, or at least, it can confirm she had the chance to get out of the clothes she came home in before she was attacked and killed. Was the examiner not able to determine the order in which Shanann and the girls were killed? First off she was supposed to have been in a rage enough to have been snuffing the life out of her daughter & then when she sees the object of her rage that caused this who then starts to fight with her & strangle her she doesnt dig her nails into him anywhere? GREELEY, Colo. Authorities released Monday the autopsy reports of Shanann Watts, 34; Bella Watts, 4; and Celeste Watts, 3. Areas of bruising, external. They manipulate, connive and plot. And then I freaked out and hurt her., He whispered, Sheshe smothered them. etc. I know that OCD was mentioned on several instances in the Discovery by those who knew her, but do they have the qualifications to make that diagnosis? Kick him? She also could not stand Shannan. No, so you have same information that anyone else has. As far as OCD I dont believe she had it This shows how little insight you have into this case, and into who Shanan was in particular. Shanann Watts' husband, Chris Watts allegedly confesses to murder The Colorado Bureau of Investigation reported that three-year-old Celeste Watts and four-year-old Bella Watts are also dead along with mom Shanann. Why was her phone downstairs along with suitcase. It is my opinion that one could not have this mix in the stomach unless it was swallowed and if the stomping on the head didnt bring Bella out of unconsciousness before being immersed in the oil, then she was very possibly (and hopefully) unaware of what was happening. Not one place on his body? He also said he didnt know where they were and he thought they were coming back. Addendum: The cadaver dog wasaso very interested in the washing machine and his handler, Jayne, says quite clearly that her dog has scented death by the machine (check the K9 video, but watch the volume, the cadaver dogs bark is quite shrill! SWs flight delay was bad news, but since hed already gotten the girls out of the way, there was nothing left but to proceed with getting rid of SW and he almost got away with it. Her clothes were even coordinated by colour in the closet. Shananns Blood Alcoholic Content was 0.128. That seems to have been nothing but getting manicures, shopping, and making videos. He was an operator for Anadarko. I dont know why, but I have a deep need (would have never expected this) to discuss what happened, and I need to be honest with my observations. > Most do not, really? Why does there always gotta be one of those? They should have been talked to later. I consider it strange to have them there (in preschool) FT at their age, given the business she was inseems like it could have been done around an at home schedule for the girls, IMO.. Back? Once youre already unconscious from sleep & then start losing air from throttling it would make you very disoriented & hard to come to fully conscious state & fight back before losing total consciousness again. Shan'ann Watts tells her husband: "I don't want a video of you" while recording her children Chris Watts Case: What would Sherlock Holmes Do? MYTH: OCD IS JUST ABOUT HAND-WASHING, CLEANING, AND BEING NEAT. According to the Denver Channel, Watts received three life prison terms without the possibility of parole. Im sure he didnt want any questions from her or to talk about anything. Required fields are marked *. The full autopsy reports are included below: Watts Aggregate Autopsy Reports by EKilloran on Scribd, MANHUNT: Hobby Lobby Distribution Center Manager Shot Dead in Altercation With Employee, 16-Year-Old High School Student Fatally Stabbed in Classroom Fight, Young Child FaceTimes for Help After 4 Members of Family Slain, Chris Watts tried to pin the murders of 3-year-old Celeste and 4-year-old Bella on his wife when he first confessed to murdering Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant at the time, In the video of Chris Wattss confession, previously published on. Maybe we can do a group letter and petition: dear Watts, what happened??! During decomposition, gasses cause stuff to come out but thats a different matter. as former sheriffs deputy, mid 70s, (When females allowed on patrol) Since its clear CW is a flagrant coward, I am finding it hard to imagine him having enough courage to have looked at her eye to eye while he was strangling her. Do you think her phone ended up where it was because thats how and where it left her hand? External bruising may have been caused by the assailant releasing the victim after killing by stranglehold, and the victim falling onto an object which would cause small circular patternation and subsequent bruising. Do you think that maybe she was actually just unconscious? He added Shannan in as an after thought, or Shannanor my wife At the time of her death, Shanann had been 15 weeks pregnant (via MEAWW). Not everyone poops when they die, in fact most do not. The womans home was spotless & there was a place for everything & everything was labeled! Theres another case that does involve a murder by a husband on a bed, through manual strangulation, and they found small drops of his and her blood on the sheets, as well as traces of her feces elsewhere in the room. These are just my opinions (based on zero knowledge). Im enjoying this site (first visit) and thanks for listening. 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